This forum setup is not bit user friendly, so I would have loved to see your answers in one post itself instead of so many.  Anyways, I would take that pain this time. I expect one reply in case you post. I am writing H for you and DD for me:

H wrote ” I am myself well-versed in Sanskrit but would defer to Aurobindo’s i…[Read more]

Eager to see your…[Read more]

You wrote: “You should thus tell me what are your necessary coditions so that one month reform can be accepted.”

My reply “If I have to accept anything, it has to comply with the astronomical as well as traditional parameters. Your theory lacks astronomically and tries to justify the traditional confusions.”

Regarding…[Read more]

You wrote “Devinder agrees that we need both sayan and nirayan. But he perhaps thinks it is not yet the time to reform because uttaryan has not reached Dhanu sankranti.”

My reply “I would give my opinion at right time in right manner logically and academically. I don’t live on just imaginations. Only once fundamentals are grasped,…[Read more]

Why are you giving up so easily. Come on, so many books under your name, you must have guts to answer. OR is it that you have understood that your ideas are not aligned to Vedas and there is no FACTUAL support in it.

In my sum up, there are 5 questions pending to you and 3 points unattended with Mr. Arinaya.  You have tried to…[Read more]

Would you please answer the real questions instead of creating a web to confuse others so that no one ask questions next timne. This is very old trick.  If you run away from questions, you don’t even help yourself. I have already summed up everything in previous psot yesterday and I expect straight answers.

To add one more t…[Read more]

Summing up,

Reply to Mr. Arinaya and unattended part:

P1) Here also you have agreed that vedas don’t specify 25920 years. Why don’t you write details of what is your understanding of Vedic Maths rather than getting emotional on this? 360 days are 360 spokes, what does 9 has to do with this? And if you are still hell bound on 9,…[Read more]

Why don’t you try the questions raised and answer straight way and not run away from the questions because it challenges the framework you have been living for so many days.

Obviously if you can’rt understand the questions and the discussion, you are yet to grow in your pursuits and are just living in an aura created by such…[Read more]

You wrote in post dated 27th May, 02: 35 “Another objection is the entrenched belief that the zodiac was not known in India until the Greeks bought it. The reason for this objection is the fear that when I insist on finding it in the Rig Veda it would lend credence to the foriegn Indologists dating of the RV around 1500 BCE.…[Read more]

Thanks for reading and acknowledging the efforts. If book is read completely, major part of research would explain how there is alignement of ancient and modern astronomy and would provide why it is called ayanamsa and not vishuwamsa. Major finds of the research are afterwards.

As far as your ideas of cosmology are concerned,…[Read more]

In an academic and logical discussion, one has to be focussed. I proposed in the beginning “Either present your understandign of cosmology independent of vedas or align it properly.”

Obviously your cosmology understandind is not in line with vedas. Instead of getting emotional again and again, why don’t you straight way answer my…[Read more]

Cool… I am expecting all these outbursts.. so I am cooler inside. Look at another emotional outburst by you.

Did you expect me to reply to Ms. Thea without reading what she wrote. I think that would have been just an emotional reaction to an emotional starting action….and would not have been fair to her.

Instead of all these bad…[Read more]

Leaving aside your emotional outburst and referring pundits, nirayanis etc…, I would straightway come to the point.

By referring to numbers 2, 5,9 and 2 and then aligning to birth dates of Mother, Sri Aurobindo, yourself and one else, and then speaking vedic alignment in same breath, you are making big mistake. You must know t…[Read more]

Let us start from reverse since you have agreed on point 4.

4) I wud reply Madam Thea’s emotional posts later.  But our agreement does not mean that it has to be the way you people are specifying as. It means we need to udnerstand right in logical/ academical manner and then realign.

3) Here also you have agreed that vedas d…[Read more]

You can sort the issue of Hari Malla’s cosmology with Hari Malla. I don’t belong to it.

Instead of writing a lengthy post again and again with the contents similar in nature, why don’t you try these questions that I posed to Madam Thea:

1. Rigveda 1.154 does not have any Sanskrit word that can be translated as lion, bull or…[Read more]

I can understand all your emotions that are natural when your heart and soul is into something. All I wrote in my last post is that you need to either do it independent of vedas or else understand the vedas and then realign it. There is no factual support in it, believe me.

In fact, if you realign, it lacks on the following…[Read more]

Your reply to Mr. Malla is biased with one observation i.e. tropical. You all seem knowing astronomy and texts, which is good but remain biased otherwise. When we say Sun revolution, that itself is geocentric world. And Sun revolution is tropical when it comes to equinoxes/ solstices but as standalone is not tropical, even in…[Read more]

You said “The solstices and equinoxes are “fixed” because they form absolute, unchanging points of reference. The equinox is always defined by a day and night of equal length, and this occurs exactly twice per year. There are always exactly two equinoxes per year—and two solstices, with equally precise and unambiguous defining m…[Read more]

Hope you would discuss with an open mind rather than biased by divine comings like Thea’s cosmology or Malla’s cosmology. This is how I started this discussion. Cosmology is cosmology, we can understand it right or wrong but it is not an individual affair.

1. ) In your writing to Mr. Malla, you have indicated Varahmihira quote.…[Read more]

Thanks for the document Richard. I have gone through it and here are my comments:

The manifestations and starting date as suggested lack the FACTUAL support that Jan was mentioning.

When it comes to FACTUAL support, there is no room for intuition, divine coming or anything like this. I respect s…[Read more]

I am not in support for Sh Hari Malla here and we two are different. My ideas are already there in my book “The Unanswered” where I have argued each and everything.

I am interested in what makes your theory and if you are married to your concepts, our discussion would be of no use.

regds

Devinder

I have already gone through the articles. Jan talked about the factual support and I am seeking factual support from you.

On what basis, you have chosen cycle of 25920 years? Just 50 secs average that can’t even be guaranteed by modern science.

On what basis you are choosing three cycles spread to 12 manifestations?

What is…[Read more]

First on Vedic Verse (Rig Veda 1.164.48) that is being quoted by many of you. This verse simply indicates the Sun revolution. One can’t and no way relate that this is an indication of tropical phenomenon.

regds

Devinder

You have written “There are at least six mainstream authorities whose ayanamsha calculations differ from each other”…

This is ok  but why it is called ayanamsa and not vishuwamsa?

regds

Devinder

You said “Thea’s Cosmology is her identification, through yogic realizations, of the correct ayanamsha (Zero Point), the use and role of Time and Measure, and the ability to provide FACTUAL PROOF for her statements.”

My questions:

1. what is  the correct ayanamsha (Zero Point) as per Thea

What are the FACTUAL PROOFS of Her…[Read more]

You have mentioned “in my cosmology “,  “what is your cosmology? I believe cosmology is cosmology, we can understand it right or wrong but how can it be an individual affair that we call it “thea’s cosmology.”

regds

Devinder