[Adi]

My vote is to close this thread. “Varuna” if you want to use this forum to expand your understanding of the supramental manifestation and related matters, I suggest you start by reading the relevant texts. Any other use of this forum is inappropriate and subject to moderation. It is both neglegent and rude of you to come here, in total ignorance of the relevant body of work, and pretend to instruct us all and the public at large. This is what is BS, and I don’t think Lori was out of line in calling it out.

[Adi]

Dear Varuna,

I don’t think you understand the purpose of this forum.

Who do you propose to conduct this open inquiry with? Why are you posting this here? What has it got to do with the supramental manifestation, Thea’s cosmology, the New Way, the gnostic content of Vedic symbols, etc? Start there, if you want to understand why we see sidereal astrology as post-vedic and void of gnostic significance. Everything was symbolic to the Rishis. The Year, the Day, the Sun, the Earth’s cardinal points… and they used these symbols to express their vision of a divine apotheosis on Earth (not in the celestial sphere!). This is where we would need to start, if you are serious about your inquiry.

Why is every temple in India aligned to the Earth’s cardinal points? What did the Rishis mean when they sang of “one circle”? You need to approach all this in a consciousness of unity and wholeness, not with the rational mind which cuts everything into pieces. Everything is connected, everythig expresses the One Thing. We do not so much need to “study epistemology” as learn to use the same methods of knowledge that the Rishis themselves used – gnosis or knowledge by identity – and learn to see all with the eye of oneness. If you are concerned about “omissions”, this above all else must be centrally affirmed.

The zodiacal signs have everything to do with the inner pulse of Time, and nothing to do with constellations. It is the pulse of Time as experienced on Earth, marked by the passage of the days, months, seasons and years. Everything centers on that central pulse, and it all takes place within “one circle”, anchored to the Earth’s cardinal points just like every truly Vedic temple. This is the foundation for a lived experience of unity on Earth, which is the true or at least the deeper purpose of astrology.

[Adi]

Thea asked that this topic be closed with Harish’s fine replies. All that can be said, has been said.

What strikes me after rereading the entire thread can be summed up in something Thea wrote:

[W]e always come to the same point: contemporary Indian astrologers and pundits have lost the knowledge of the meaning of the zodiacal signs. Therefore they have eliminated them and refer only to Nakshatras and to the astrological houses for interpretations; limiting them to a very superficial layer of the Art.

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To close this off, since Devinder is still calling attention to his unanswered questions, I will make a final effort to address them here:

Q2) Since Ms. Thea answered (in fact accepted) that for Ages/ manifestations, she uses sidereal zodiac in her last post.

My reply/ question “Fair enough, but half knowledge is not right! so please provide your zero point for this since you are using this in your 12 manifestations and agreeing to a different zodiac”

If you read the materials that were suggested by Robert or Jan, or even carefully read the contents of this thread, you will discover that Thea’s “zero point” is connected to the coming of the Avatars, and that according to her the current Age of Aquarius began in 1926. Note that this is not determined in relation to the stars, but in relation to events on Earth, specifically the evolution of consciousness on Earth. The relevant facts are inseparable from the “meaning of the zodiacal signs” and their connection to the Avatars of Vishnu. In order to appreciate these facts, we would need to appreciate the (zodiacal) language in which the facts are presented.

Q4) You have tried to correlate Varuna with capricorn, there are many Gods, so 4th question, What about Indra, Agni, Maruts, Ashwini kumars etc.?

We would need to take each god in turn, discover its pscyho-spiritual function within the Vedic system of symbols (for example, as Sri Aurobindo attempted in The Secret of the Veda); we would need to do the same with the zodiacal signs and identify the points of contact. Some of them are easy (Agni rides a Ram, Ashwins are twins and stand opposite the sign of the Horse), others are more complex. But just stating isolated facts is meaningless unless it is connected to a coherent body of knowledge. Again, we would need to delve deeply into the language of the zodiac and the symbolism it contains.

Q5) To add one more thing to that sum up, “Varuna is God of water and related to evening, Mitra is opposite to it at dawn. So, how do you justify it in your understanding of Mitra as Aquarius and Varuna as Capricorn when both are at opposite plane, dawn and dusk as per veda”. This is Question 5, Q5 for you.

As above, any answer will be meaningless unless it is connected to a complete body of cosmological knoweldge. Just saying “Varuna is god of water” says nothing about his deeper spiritual functions. Mitra-Varuna are solar deities, closely connected to the Vedic “fourth world” (Satyam-Ritam-Brihad). I suggest you read The New Way, vols 1 & 2, to discover how Thea connects the Vedic gods Mitra, Varuna, Bhaga and Aryaman to the “fourth world” (fourth quarter of the zodiac). It’s more than I can cover in this short space.

P2) Read Atharva Veda, 19.7 for nakshatras

Thanks. The Nakshatras here seem to be invoked as helpers of some kind.

“The brilliant lights shining in heaven together, which through the world glide on with rapid motion.” The opening verse seems to suggest that in Vedic times, the stars were not seen as “fixed” but as rapidly moving, which points to a geocentric view of the cosmos.

[Adi]

harimalla wrote:

Dear Arinayaji, Please understand that the Rishis are saying “they shake not” for the steller world of sun and the stars and not to the earth’s solstices and equinoxes. The Vedas says “Give up the world for the sake of Atma.”  Here. the ‘world’ means the earth. Atma means the world of the unmoving Sun and the stars. Integral yoga means nothing but this only. We calculate Yoga in our Panchanga by adding the speed of the sun to the speed of the stars ( Nakshyatra). This is the practical mathematics of Intergral yoga. The Integration means the intergration of  the day caused by  the sun and the night of the stars. Can you please integrate the day to the night in this fashion? The day you can do that you have achieved the goal of Intergral yoga. Be sure of that.  This means you should visualize the sun and the stars simultaneously, situated in one space of the universe..Then you have achieved the goal of Integral Yoga. Karma yoga is represented by the story of Rama, the seventh Avatar and experienced at the winter solstice. Bhaktiyoga by the story of Krishna of eighth incarnationan experienced at the spring equinox.. Gyana yoga by the story of Buddha, the ninth incarnation, experienced at the summer solstice. Intergral yoga is the integration of these  three types of yogas and is traditionally called as Raja yoga and represented by the story of Kalki avatar, the tenth incarnation of God, who brings the Staya yuga or the Golden age….It is experienced at the Autumn equinox. These four Avatars moving in sequence as Satya yuga, treta yuga, dwapar yuga and kali yuga revolves around the sun at the four cardinal points and this dynamic motion is represented by the Swastika symbol. It is achieved in one person’s life time. This  is also indicated by the story of Rohita, the son of Harish chandara. Are these facts palatable to you? Please do not say “the stars whirl but the earth’s solstices and equinoxes are fixed.” You are interpreting things upside down from  against the  reality as accepted by science and also common sense…Thank you, Hari Malla

Dear Hariji,

It is interesting to see the points of contact and the points of divergence between our views. Actually the Rishi is saying that the 360 “pegs” do not shake in the least. It is the wheel itself that is fixed, and singular (one wheel). To see how this wheel might be anchored to the cycles of Earth-time, picture the Dawn, Ushas. The Dawn occurs when the dark and light are equally balanced, and forms something like a point of reference, or an eternal moment, that the consciousness can use to orient itself.

In terms of the Year, the Dawn corresponds to the Vernal Equinox, when again the dark and the light are equally balanced.  Can you tell me, at what fixed point on the sidereal circle the days and nights are of equal length?

This is all I mean by the equinoxes are “fixed”. They always correspond, by definition, to the moment when the day and the night are of equal length (just like the Dawn). They are “fixed” to the moments in time when the day and the night are equal.

Today we have forgotten how to see the cosmos from a geocentric perspective. The Sun and stars are not “fixed”, they whirl constantly about the Earth. The Earth is solid, stable, unmoving (in the Vedic worldview, prithivi is the principle of stability).

I believe you are mistaken when you say that the Veda says “Give up the world for the sake of Atma.” Can you tell me what passage you had in mind? What the Veda says is carry through the yajna to the ninth/tenth month, conquor the panis, release the power of the hidden Sun, and enter into the Vast, the Right, the Truth (the fourth world, swar or mahas). But it also says that it is the Days and the Months themselves that lead us to this apotheosis—in other words, it occurs on Earth, not elsewhere.

All ten Avatars form a parable of evolution. I don’t think you can reduce it to the trimarga without losing everything. Rama incarnated the ideal of the sattwic man, Krishna of the overmental superman, and Sri Aurobindo came to establish the Supermind as a permanent feature of the Earth consciousness. What the Buddha represents in the progression is not a step forward from the 8th stage, but a return to an earlier stage. What he initiated was an exaggerated development of the rational mind and a tendency to fly away from the Earth-centered perspective.

The goal of the integral yoga is not to “see the sun and the stars at the same time”, it is to realize the Divine consciousness on every plane of our being (including the most material physical) and to prepare the human adhara and the world at large for the supramental descent and manifestation. The goal of the Vedic yajna seems similar in almost every respect, although they did not speak so much about the possibility of a collective realisation of the Supermind / swar / mahas. Still, the contours of the “journey” were all laid out in vivid detail. It was a realisation of the Earth, for the Earth, on the Earth, in Earth-time.

[Adi]

Devinder,

As to your second point, in my study of the Veda, I have yet to find any mention of any constallations whatsoever, whether of lunar mansions or the modern IAU ones. As far as I can tell, constellations were not part of the symbolism used by the Vedic rishis. On the other hand, we find several references to a wheel of 360 degrees/days/spokes, divided into 12 equal portions. Would you point me to the RV verses that mention the 27 constellations of post-Vedic astrology?

Third point, the precession of 25,920 years is similar to the year of 360 days: it is an ideal measure. As we both know, the number 25,920 is not mentioned anywhere in the Vedas. To understand why the composers of the Veda preferred whole, harmonic numbers divisible by 9, such as 360, you need to understand the language of Number, or so-called Vedic mathematics.

I agree with your fourth point – we share this much in common, and it alone aught to be enough to move us toward a mutual understanding… I encourage you to read and digest Thea’s detailed reply above.

[Adi]

Devinder,

In this reply I want to focus on your first point. Harish already addressed it, but to reiterate:

• mrigo…bhimah kucaro (mriga: beast/animal, bhimah: terrible/formidable, kucara: roaming). Sri Aurobindo translated this as a “terrible lion that ranges…” Griffith translates it as “some wild beast, dread, prowling”. It’s interesting that Sri Aurobindo never spoke about the Zodiacal content of the Veda, and yet still chose to translate “terrible roaming beast” as a Lion.
• vrshne – I am no expert, but according to my dictionary, vrshni can mean vrsha (Bull). Griffith translates it as Bull (capitalized).
• priyam…naro…madhva utsah (beloved [of] men…fount/well of sweetness) Sri Aurobindo translates as “Friend of Men who is the fount of sweetness”. You’re saying that, in this context, “priya” (beloved) cannot be translated as Friend?

You claim that these phrases “do not have any Sanskrit word that can be translated as lion, bull or Friend”. In other words, you claim that Sri Aurobindo was an incompetent translator, that a Lion is not a “terrible roaming animal”, that a Bull is not a Bull, and that a Friend is not beloved. This all seems a little absurd.

[Adi]

harimalla wrote:

Dear Mr.Arinaya, How do we know that there is precession.of the equinoxes? Is it not with reference to the star background.? Agreed that there is no  solstices and equinoxes in the sidereal zodiacs. Netherless is it not, on the background of fixed stars, that we see the motion of solstices and equinoxes of the year?  If not this , then what  is the definition of precession itself, unless we defined its motion on the back ground of stars? So from thisn do we not see, the stars are much more fixed than the solstices and the equinoxes. I am saying more fixed sicne you brought the whirling of our galaxy also into picture.. May i request you to be more practical and  find, how as humans, we or our human history, can ever experience the whirling of the galaxy, since our life is barely one hundred years.The galaxy takes about 23 crore years to make one whirl..Can we observe or experience that motion since it takes 64 lakh years only to move over one degree of that whirl. So kindly be more practical since we are talking of human experinces in this cosmoloy for spiritual upliftment of humanity..On this basis one whole precessional cycle of 26,000 years (when the solstices and equinoxes move over 360 degrees of star circle) experiences only  0.004 degrees of the whirl. So friend can we not take for all practical purposes of human history , the stars of the zodiac circle as fully fixed and the solstices  and the equinoxes as moving? The solstices and equnioxes move over 360 degrees of the zodiac circle when the zodiac circle moves over 0.004 degrees of the galactic whirl. How can we take the solstices as fixed and the stars as moving? Let us have some common sense. Thank you, Hari Malla

I understand your line of reasoning, but you have conveniently skipped over an essential point: the solstices and equinoxes form an absolute frame of reference (the cardinal cross): they do not move even 0.004 degrees per precessional cycle: they do not move at all, they “shake not in the least”. With the Earth as our footing and the tropical zodiac as our frame of reference, it is the stars that precess. Vedic cosmology is geocentric. Nirayana system came later.

I will in turn implore you to be more “practical”: since very few humans live 26,000 years, but we all share the experience of the Day and the Year, why not adopt a frame of reference that we can all relate to? This appears to be what the Vedic Rishis did, and was only undermined in post-Vedic India, some 1000-1500 years ago, with the introduction of the Nirayana system.

We do not need to bring the whirling of the galaxy into the picture to appreciate that the tropical zodiac is more applicable to human life, and forms a frame of reference that we can all agree on.

The psychological equivalence of the Dawn and the Vernal Equinox is deeply related to the “one wheel” of the Vedic verse. How do you propose to uphold that equivalence within an arbitrary “circle of the stars”? Where, at what fixed point within the Nirayana circle, are the day and night of equal length? As you know, there is no such point. For this simple reason, we can reject the Nirayana system—not because it is wrong or because it was invented relatively recently, but because it fails to provide a “practical” frame of reference for the unfolding of a higher vision of Time. All it can do is lead us away from the Earth, to the formless absolute (what you call the Father). This is not the goal of the Vedic yajna, nor of an integral yoga or an integral cosmology. At best it is an intellectual pasttime, and at worst it is a distortion of the spiritual path and one of the deep causes of the decrepitude of modern India.

With love, Arinaya

[Adi]

devinder wrote:

My dear friend, the whole world knows that tropical zodiac is formed referred to moving VE and hence how it is fixed? 12 spokes are defined equal in nirayana zodiac too and are not categorized according to the modern constellation boundaries that you are basing your argument on. And hence your argument is hollow.  Sun revolution as standalone is not tropical in nature.

The solstices and equinoxes are “fixed” because they form absolute, unchanging points of reference. The equinox is always defined by a day and night of equal length, and this occurs exactly twice per year. There are always exactly two equinoxes per year—and two solstices, with equally precise and unambiguous defining moments.

This wheel (of the tropical zodiac) can be defined without making any reference to the stars, or even to the length of the year. It arises purely out of the relationship between the Earth and the Sun. Also note that the same points can be applied to defining the Day (dawn, midday, dusk, midnight). The tropical zodiac (and the Day) are thus “fixed” because anchored to these absolute, unchanging points of reference, which stand like pillars, firmly rooted in the Earth. In fact if you study Thea’s cosmology you will see that this superimposition of the Day and the Year is a defining feature of the Vedic mythos (especially with regards to the attainment of victory in the tenth month).

There are no solstices and equinoxes in the sidereal “zodiac”, thus no fixed points of reference, no pillars, and no meaningful way to juxtapose the Day and the Year. The entire universe is constantly “churning” (there are no “fixed stars”). Whatever wheel you define will be adrift in the void, like a rudderless ship on the ocean, and any attempt you make to “fix” it will be completely arbitrary. I believe the Rishis knew this very well.

[Adi]

Ian, these two images are really illustrative. The ticking clock with no moving parts, and the “timeline” with information smeared out in space, such as the image you provided.

The compaction of time occurs from 9 (future) to 6 (past) to 3 (present) to 0, in which the three dimensions of time are said to be compressed. So if time is an arrow, the arrow points from the future “into” the zero (and not, as the mind imagines, from the past into the future). And that zero is like a point of pure vibration (OM) setting the fabric of space into motion. The ticking clock in the mountain to me is a symbol of that point of pure vibration, which is also the point through which the lines of destiny are drawn together (and, as such, “compacted” into a seed). This seed then unfolds in space, perhaps not unlike the spatialized smear of events that you captured in your image. But prior to this unfolding in space, before we can even think of drawing a timeline, there is an entire process by which the field of time is structured. We might describe this process in stages:

1. The eternal field of the future, containing the infinite, inexhaustible potential of all that has yet to manifest (the transcendent poise)
2. The eternal field of the past, forming a kind of crystalline structure that gives form and context and direction to the potentials of the future (the cosmic poise)
3. The eternal field of the present, which creates perspective, order and dynamism within that cosmic and transcendent vastness (the individual poise)
4. The junction point between the domain of ‘whole time’ and the sequential unfolding of events in space.

The mental “hole” must learn to widen itself so as to receive the vastness of the supramental vibration, without distortion or diminuation. This is not only possible, but according to Sri Aurobindo the inevitable and logical next step in the natural order of things.

Towards the end of his Synthesis of Yoga, he described the “compaction of time” this way,

…[The supramental] time consciousness therefore will be different from that of the mental being, not swept helplessly on the stream of the moments and clutching at each moment as a stay and a swiftly disappearing standpoint, but founded first on its eternal identity beyond the changes of time, secondly on a simultaneous eternity of Time in which past, present and future exist together for ever in the self-knowledge and self-power of the Eternal, thirdly, in a total view of the three times as one movement singly and indivisibly seen even in their succession of stages, periods, cycles, last—and that only in the instrumental consciousness—in the step by step evolution of the moments. [SOY 4.25, p. 886]

By “compaction”, we mean that as we move along the “arrow” of time, we move from the vast and undifferentiated to the particular and fully determined:

• from transcendent / future (eternal identity beyond the changes of time),
• to cosmic / past (simultaneous time in its formal / structured aspect),
• to individual / present (self-ordering of simultaneous time through the agency of cycles),
• to immanent / seed (zero-point from which the ordered sequencing of events in space proceeds).

[Adi]

I don’t see any lack of integration (it is all in the one circle after all), rather it is a kind of underlying structure, almost as if the 9-6-3-0 were an axis, and the other numbers orbit around it. That relationship is the integration/synthesis.

[Adi]

thea wrote:

I don’t really know about the frequencies Arinaya mentions and this aetherometry, but clearly the New Way and the Supramental Yoga and Cosmology is closer to the mark, but it bypasses the stumbling-block they experience since I approach it all fresh, having no scientific background.

I know, nobody knows about aetherometry. I bring it up from time to time because it is a viable alternative to Relativity (simpler, more complete) and gives Tesla’s (and Kozyrev’s) findings a self-consistent theoretical basis. Whether this is of any value in face of your work, is another question; one which I am not yet able to answer.

Having bypassed the stumbling blocks, is there no more need for science? I really wonder about this sometimes, because on one hand it is so pivotal to modern society, and on the other hand it is so clearly a movement of the ignorance. Are there bridges to be built, or do we leave the whole thing behind to collapse under its own weight?

[Adi]

Just now catching up on this thread.

lori wrote:

This is all fascinating Thea. Arinaya, can you expand on your comment regarding Nassim’s work (‘he still tries to express it all in Einstein’s mathematical framework, so it kind of falls flat’) in the recent post regarding his work?

Haramein extends relativity by introducing another temporal component (adding torque to spacetime), and in this sense it seems to be related to Kosyrev’s torsion fields, at least in principle. However, in Haramein’s case, the addition of an added temporal component actually changes nothing, because Time is still factored out of the equation (in the normal relativistic manner). It falls flat because it collapses all notions of Time into an abstract differential geometry (in space).

What I find fascinating is the difficulty that one faces in connecting the new way to the scientific domain. I used to think it should be simple, but now I’m not sure that it is even possible, simply because they proceed un such different foundations. This morning I’ve been seeing the entire scientific enterprise as a vast projection of a fragmented mental consciousness onto the body of the real. The mind atomizes everything, and can never truly think in terms of a global unity. Even its grandest unified theories are but the tip of an iceberg. In this way also, it falls flat.

[Adi]

Brian, to put it another way, after rereading the overview of Haramein’s work,—while it is perhaps correct to equate the 0 with his singularity, the 9, 6 and 3 exist as ‘whole tones’ on the other side of the zero-point / singularity. Thus they can’t really be connected to anything in Haramein’s theory, since he doesn’t even go there.

That being said, there are some points of contact between Haramein’s work and our own. The most obvious one is the perception of simultaneous contraction and expansion, and the vision of perpetual creation that unfolds from it. If he were to start talking about the role that Time plays in determining the structure and order of all that we observe in space (including the evolution of life and consciousness!), it might start to get interesting.

Note that gravity and electromagnetism do not exhaust the types of energetic phenomena that we encounter on ‘this side’. In particular, Haramein makes no account of scalar electricity or latent heat, both of which exist independently from matter, electromagnetic forces or gravity and are necessary to any sensible account of biophysical energies. Thus his is not really a “unified” physics, it is still incomplete and confines itself to the most superficial view possible.

On that note, Robert recently forwarded this —

Sri Aurobindo once said about the three kinds of energy in a conversation noted down by Pavitra.

‘In the West the higher minds are not turned towards spiritual truth but towards material science. The scope of science is very narrow: it touches only the most exterior part of the physical plane

And even there, what does science really know? It studies the functioning of the laws, edificates theories ever renewed and each time held up as the last word of truth! We had recently the atomic theory, now comes the electronic!

There are, for instance, two statements of modern science that would stir up deeper ranges in an occultist:

1.       atoms are whirling systems like the solar system;

2.       the atoms of all the elements are made out of the same constituents. Different arrangement is the only cause of different properties.

If these statements are considered under their true aspect, they could lead science to new discoveries of which there is no idea actually and in comparison with which the actual knowledge is poor.

According to the experience of ancients Yogis, sensible matter was made out of five elements, bhūtāni: Prithvi, Apas, Agni (Tejas), Vayu, Akasha.

Agni is threefold:

1.       ordinary fire, Jala Agni,

2.       electric fire, Vaidyuta Agni,  (Lightning)

3.       solar fire, Saura Agni.

Science only entered upon the first and the second of these fires. The fact that the atom is like the solar system could lead it to the knowledge of the third.

Beyond Agni is Vayu of which science knows nothing. It is the support of all contact and exchange, the cause of gravitation and of the fields (magnetic and electric).

By it, the action of Agni, the formal element, builder of forms, is made possible.

And beyond Vayu is the ether, Akasha.

Why does Vayu, which corresponds to the gas, stand higher than Agni?

Vayu has been identified with the gas, but it is a mistake. It is Vayu which permits exchanges and mutual actions, gravitation for instance. It is an element of contact….’

*Record of a talk Pavitra had with Sri Aurobindo dated 8 May 1926

While this still does not plunge is into the Zero and through it into the domain of simultaneous Time (9, 6, 3), it does highlight how much more depth and integrality is contained in the ancient proto-science of Yoga, compared to what modern science has managed to conjure up.

[Adi]

ian~j wrote:

Several weeks ago while looking into prime numbers and their role in cryptography I happened upon a web page displaying all the prime numbers below 1000. Idly performing a little Theosophical Reduction on some of these numbers resulted in none of them resolving to a 9. Indeed, further calculation revealed none resolved to a 3, 6 or 9! …

Ian, this reminds me of Marko Rodin’s work, I suspect he will have explored this connection with the primes. See http://rense.com/rodinaerodynamics.htm

It’s interesting that the prime numbers and the powers of 2 both share this quality.

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If I’m understanding you correctly, Brian, your 9, 6, 3 and 0 associations all link up with events on ‘this side’ of the borderline, thus it is not the same as the 9-6-3-0/1 formula that one finds in Thea’s cosmology, which describes reality on the ‘other side’. Even the 0 is described in terms of a fractal interaction (in space, I presume), rather than a plunge into the domain of simultaneous Time, wherein the 9, 6 and 3 are contained. From what I recall, Haramein does not speak at all about the geometry of time, whole time, simultaneous time, which are the very bases of the new way.

While Haramein has certainly taken Einstein’s field equations a step forward (by introducing torque into the fabric of spacetime), I fail to see the point. It is still an abstract spatial geometry;time is still factored out of the equation by multiplying it by the speed of light. FWIW, I believe the physics of the future will dispense with Einstein’s approach altogether. There is no good reason to invoke Lorentz-Fitzgerald transformations, and without that, Einstein’s entire framework falls flat on its face.

We need to lay new foundations for science. Science itself has proven itself incapable of doing so, and science illumined by spiritual awakening fares no better (Haramein is perhaps a shining example). So how do we proceed?

[Adi]

Density in the sense you’re using the term has to do with inertia yes? Matter seems ‘dense’ because it exhibits inertia. The aether/consciousness is non-inertial and so appears ‘non-dense’, or the ‘purest manifestation of Time’ as you put it (pure vibratory existence).

In aetherometry, the inertia of matter is due to its stable structure (both spatial and temporal), and a kind of subconsient will for self preservation. The timings of an electron, for example, are invariably fixed at around 10^^15 and 10^^20 vibrations per second. It is this fixing of the frequencies to a set rate, and the ‘will’ of the electron to hold to them no matter what, which causes inertia… whereas in the aether, electric frequencies vary freely in response to local fluctuations. In this sense, Matter is certainly energy locked in time, or rather locked by time – energy made inertial by fixing time in place. Stabilisation of the time manifold seems to be the key.

I don’t know what instruments Kozyrev used in his research; I know the Correas have similar devices, which measure the ambipolar bio-electric field of the body. It should be common knowledge by now that thoughts and emotions are vibrations of an aetheric substance, but science is in deep denial of life and consciousness. Nassim Haramein, who Brian mentioned in another topic, is one person who has carried Kozyrev’s line of research, especially as it relates to ‘torsion fields’, – although he still tries to express it all in Einstein’s mathematical framework, so it kind of falls flat.

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