My vote is to close this thread. “Varuna” if you want to use this forum to expand your understanding of the supramental manifestation and related matters, I suggest you start by reading the relevant texts. Any other use of this forum is inappropriate and subject to moderation. It is both neglegent and rude of you to come here, in total ignorance…[Read more]

Dear Varuna,

I don’t think you understand the purpose of this forum.

Who do you propose to conduct this open inquiry with? Why are you posting this here? What has it got to do with the supramental manifestation, Thea’s cosmology, the New Way, the gnostic content of Vedic symbols, etc? Start there, if you want to understand why we see…[Read more]

Thea asked that this topic be closed with Harish’s fine replies. All that can be said, has been said.

What strikes me after rereading the entire thread can be summed up in something Thea wrote:

[W]e always come to the same point: contemporary Indian astrologers and pundits have lost the knowledge of the meaning of the zodiacal signs. Therefore…

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@harimalla wrote earlier:

Dear Arinayaji, Please understand that the Rishis are saying “they shake not” for the steller world of sun and the stars and not to the earth’s solstices and equinoxes. The Vedas says “Give up the world for the sake of Atma.”  Here. the ‘world’ means the earth. Atma means the world of the unmoving Sun and the stars.…

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Devinder,

As to your second point, in my study of the Veda, I have yet to find any mention of any constallations whatsoever, whether of lunar mansions or the modern IAU ones. As far as I can tell, constellations were not part of the symbolism used by the Vedic rishis. On the other hand, we find several references to a wheel of 360…[Read more]

Devinder,

In this reply I want to focus on your first point. Harish already addressed it, but to reiterate:

mrigo…bhimah kucaro (mriga: beast/animal, bhimah: terrible/formidable, kucara: roaming). Sri Aurobindo translated this as a “terrible lion that ranges…” Griffith translates it as “some wild beast, dread, prowling”. It’s int…[Read more]

5arinaya wrote:

harimalla wrote:

Dear Mr.Arinaya, How do we know that there is precession.of the equinoxes? Is it not with reference to the star background.? Agreed that there is no  solstices and equinoxes in the sidereal zodiacs. Netherless is it not, on the background of fixed stars, that we see the motion of solstices and equinoxes of the…

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harimalla wrote:

Dear Mr.Arinaya, How do we know that there is precession.of the equinoxes? Is it not with reference to the star background.? Agreed that there is no  solstices and equinoxes in the sidereal zodiacs. Netherless is it not, on the background of fixed stars, that we see the motion of solstices and equinoxes of the year?  If not t…

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devinder wrote:

My dear friend, the whole world knows that tropical zodiac is formed referred to moving VE and hence how it is fixed? 12 spokes are defined equal in nirayana zodiac too and are not categorized according to the modern constellation boundaries that you are basing your argument on. And hence your argument is hollow.  Sun revolution a…

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Ian, these two images are really illustrative. The ticking clock with no moving parts, and the “timeline” with information smeared out in space, such as the image you provided.

The compaction of time occurs from 9 (future) to 6 (past) to 3 (present) to 0, in which the three dimensions of time are said to be compressed. So if time is an arrow,…[Read more]

I don’t see any lack of integration (it is all in the one circle after all), rather it is a kind of underlying structure, almost as if the 9-6-3-0 were an axis, and the other numbers orbit around it. That relationship is the integration/synthesis.

thea wrote:

I don’t really know about the frequencies Arinaya mentions and this aetherometry, but clearly the New Way and the Supramental Yoga and Cosmology is closer to the mark, but it bypasses the stumbling-block they experience since I approach it all fresh, having no scientific background.

I know, nobody knows about aetherometry. I bring it…[Read more]

Just now catching up on this thread.

lori wrote:

This is all fascinating Thea. Arinaya, can you expand on your comment regarding Nassim’s work (‘he still tries to express it all in Einstein’s mathematical framework, so it kind of falls flat’) in the recent post regarding his work?

Haramein extends relativity by introducing another temporal co…[Read more]

Brian, to put it another way, after rereading the overview of Haramein’s work,—while it is perhaps correct to equate the 0 with his singularity, the 9, 6 and 3 exist as ‘whole tones’ on the other side of the zero-point / singularity. Thus they can’t really be connected to anything in Haramein’s theory, since he doesn’t even go there.

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ian~j wrote:

Several weeks ago while looking into prime numbers and their role in cryptography I happened upon a web page displaying all the prime numbers below 1000. Idly performing a little Theosophical Reduction on some of these numbers resulted in none of them resolving to a 9. Indeed, further calculation revealed none resolved to a 3, 6 or…

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Density in the sense you’re using the term has to do with inertia yes? Matter seems ‘dense’ because it exhibits inertia. The aether/consciousness is non-inertial and so appears ‘non-dense’, or the ‘purest manifestation of Time’ as you put it (pure vibratory existence).

In aetherometry, the inertia of matter is due to its stable structure (both…[Read more]

sergeg wrote:

I have never been very enthusiatic about the Big Bang theory but it was really big (sorry about that) back when I took my physics degree.  It leads to a number of unpleasant conclusions: singularity, dark matter and the cosmic inflationary theory.  Here is an article you might find i…

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Ok, but let’s connect this back to the core of the new scientific paradigm: simultaneous contraction and expansion. Hoyle and Narlikar were still labouring under the burden of Relativity and the notion that the universe is expanding (which is merely the most popular interpretation of the presence of cosmic red-shifts). Thus they had no way to…[Read more]